In this recent conversation with Anne Blythe of Betrayal Trauma Recovery, Dr. Minwalla discusses complex trauma shaping and damage to the second brain which can occur during the covert phase of a Secret Sexual Basement. He highlights some of the blind spots which are common with clergy and the potential for further trauma that religious advisors may subconsciously enact due to traditional gender scripts and systemic entitlement. Finally, he underlines the role of humility in treatment and encourages Anne's intersectional faith and feminism as powerful tools for becoming a more fully actualized human, complete with a trauma history.